Burrus: USPS May Layoff Employees But It Will Affect Very Few APWU Members
USPS Financial Difficulties And the Possibility of Layoffs
Update From APWU President William Burrus
There has been significant interest in my Sept. 30 Update for union members, which discussed the Postal Service’s bleak financial situation and the presidential election: Interest has been especially high about the reference to the possibility of layoffs – for the first time in postal history.
Let me be clear: The possibility that the Postal Service may exercise its authority to layoff career employees is real, but it would affect very few APWU-represented employees. The 2006-2010 Collective Bargaining Agreement guarantees that each employee who is employed in the regular work force as of Nov. 20, 2006, “shall be protected henceforth against any involuntary layoff or force reduction during the term of this Agreement.”
The agreement also provides that “upon completion of six years of continuous service in their regular workforce” APWU-represented employees are protected against any involuntary layoff or force reduction “during any period of employment in the regular work force with the United States Postal Service or successor organization in his or her lifetime.” To receive credit for the year, an employee must have worked at least one hour (or received a call-in guarantee in lieu of work) in at least 20 of the 26 pay periods during that anniversary year.
APWU-represented employees who meet the criteria listed above are protected for the life of the 2006-2010 National Agreement or for their lifetime, and are not threatened by layoffs resulting from the significant decline in mail volume or the USPS financial difficulties.
If the Postal Service’s offer of early retirement fails to reduce the workforce commensurate with USPS budgetary problems, the Postal Service will have a continuing need to reduce the number of employees. I expect that non-protected employees will be exposed to the possibility of layoff.
During a meeting between Postmaster General John E. Potter and the union presidents last month, he reported that 16,000 postal employees lack protection against layoffs. Members of the Mail Handlers Union and the APWU have the protections described above.
The threat of layoffs is just one of the factors mentioned in my previous Update, which informed union members that the November elections have great significance for postal employees and are much more personal than abortion, guns, gay marriage and terrorism. This time it is about your job.
source: apwu.org



October 3rd, 2008 at 10:07 am
3 Oct 08
Good thing some of us are members of the APWU, LOOK OUT SCABS and Brainless supervisors your time has come. You’ve no protection because your in Management,they can put your name on a piece of paper and your outta here bye suckers
October 3rd, 2008 at 10:48 am
Eat Shit retard
October 3rd, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Neither of you should be employed by the Federal Government. You are disgusting.
October 5th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
I believed that they should do the lay-off in the management first. I see many of them doing nothing holding clip-board pretending they are working but in reality they wasting usps money.
October 6th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
There are so many people that do nothing with moving the mail where I work. 50 percent of these jobs at least should be eliminated. Same with all of these “management” slugs that do nothing but stand around bullsh%tting all day. Finally all SCABS should be layed off.
October 7th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
when they start thinning the fat from the top, then we will take this seriously. otherwise it is just an attempt for Potter and his cronies to get more of a bonus every year. you can only cry wolf so many times.
October 7th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
hire an outside firm to do an audit on potter and all of his vp’s to see just what they do to earn their money. I bet they could find huge savings instantly!
October 8th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
What about those who have less than six years and were hired after Nov. 2006?
I wonder how they will determine who to lay off, will it be based simply on the criteria, less than six years continuous service, or will it be based on the facility?
October 8th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Management can blame it on low mail volume, but in reality they’re passing the buck on mismanagement. Lining their pockets and buddies pockets to sit around and micro manage and dictate without leaving their office. Hit the streets with the carriers, work in the plants and watch what is going on. everyones protected in the old timers court and guess what, if they,re protected by manageament to answer a phone. They both need to be on the choping block. Many are old enough to retire and are draining the system. protection by the union for them is also a union breakdown to let this happen. bottom line you cant do your job retire, or pack your bags. we have a job to perform and the milkers are killing the long tradition of a long history. Including manageament. As far as the union goes its a failure and a hole in the pocket. get rid of the union and let work performance firing begin. WEED OUT THE WEED AND THE USPS WILL SUCCEED.
October 9th, 2008 at 1:28 am
Get rid of the unions and YOU’LL be let go, big red, unless you are the ass kisser type. You must be on drugs. Or management.
October 9th, 2008 at 8:51 am
No need for name calling or being unprofessional, but I have to agree…there are alot of people employed by the Post Office who make the same as you and me if not more, but don’t do any of the work or only do what they absolutely have to in order to keep from getting in trouble. Those people take up jobs, space, money, and oxygen that nother person who appreciated a good job could use. You would think people would have a little more respect for their selves and their co-workers and just do their jobs. If they did, we wouldn’t be having half the problems and complaint’s as we have now. People just don’t care anymore. What a shame. It makes it hard on the ones that do.
October 9th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
I’m with big red. Let them go out and work like we do, instead of setting in their offices making demands and rules that don’t make since. You can do it on paper in 5 miniutes, but in reality it takes hours! They have NO clue what WORK is.
October 10th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
What they should do is get rid of the 204b’s and thse so called lite duty workers that milking comp dry
October 10th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
204B’s what are tey Mgmt pets.People that cant do the job.in mystation there is”204b”wink thathas not done the route in years.but lett a carrier leave in an emergency with a blink of an eye it will be done not by a carrier. Lite dutyy @$$.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
I feel like people who never had to work anywhere but the postal service are spoiled brats! Work ethic is practically non-exsistent on the workroom floor. Light duty and slackers who have a sense of entitlement are dragging the whole thing down. Maybe they can retire in a few years but I have 11 years to go. Please leave something for us workhorses to do, will ya?
October 11th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
The only thing Burrass cares about is his monies coming in from the saps who are members. He is one that should also be fired. He is worse than a scab. He doesn’t work for the postal service yet he voices as a hard working postal employee. All he does is suck money from actual workers. The APWU is America’s Worst Postal Union
October 11th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
maybe it is time for management to actually microsize its’ own EAS program, and ” micro manage” its’ own management people. I am a reg. clerk, at a bulk mail center, and i see a lot of wasteful managers doing not much of anything, but pass the blame of the inefficiencies of the postal service, on its’ own workforce…..??? Where in the world is the management of the postal service??????????????????????????????
October 21st, 2008 at 8:14 pm
I’m a PTF Letter Carrier and talks about layoffs is really scaring me. Most regular carriers think that they dont have to do as much as the PTF’s and TE’s carriers. We are the ones that do the majority of the work and we work hard. If we were granted our jobs because of our job performance, then most of them wouldn’t have a job. We deserve to keep our job and we have lives to. We left our of job for a job of a life time, thinking it was going to last until we retired. Wow!!!
November 5th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
If I am a regular and have less than 6 years service, but am also a disabled veteran, will I be exempt from these layoffs?
November 5th, 2008 at 11:49 pm
I am a clerk - 61 years old with 36 years federal service - and a female - most all other clerks in our office are younger than me. However, I have been told by my supervisor that I outwork, over 1/2 of the other clerks. That my work ethic, sick leave usage, team player attitude and customer service skills all rise far above those younger clerks. Can I retire ?
Sure ! Do I want to retire ? NO ! ! I have to live the rest of my life on my retirement - I can get a part time job now if I Needed to - but what about 10 years from now ? The longer I stay the more that retirement is going to be when I do go out the door. Gas, food, clothing, utilities, insurances, property taxes all cost the same to me if I retire as to those still working.
November 12th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Get rid of the Union???? Have ya’ll lost your mind??? The Union is the only thing stopping you from being layed off! You think the Postal Service cares anything about you? It don’t matter how hard of a worker you are! It dont matter how much you brown-nose! Upper management will get their raise at all cost!!!
November 12th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
EAS employees would just resign and revert back to the work floor. They would be bargaining unit employees again and their buddies will find them bids somewhere in the site. Has anyone here worked anywhere else but the USPS. This is time to put the hurt on UPS. DHL just left the USA. We can increase our operating balance by competing for the shipping business. Postal Regulatory Commission duty is to make us compete like a real company. All shipping 30% off. 10% percent off lowest competing price. Open up 24 hour service center in major metro area somewhere OTHER than the airports. Maned drive thrus. It is what real companies like WAL_MART do when pressed with lower sales. They improve service and draw customers in.
November 12th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
its to bad i just passed the test that means no place for me god helpe me i need thise job
November 12th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
I am a t 6 get rid of Sat delivery 1/6 of the expense. Our office has a sup. and a 204b. Don’t need the 204b. make the PM do the job on the day off for the sup. Light duty try having a dog tear you up and cause two shoulder surgeries.The job caused the injury and the job should take care of the worker afterward. When you get 60 a lot of you think we are finished. I still do more than some of the 30 yr olds. I am not ready to retire and some day you will be there ,do you want someone to force you out. Get serious about a buy out and maybe some will retire.
November 12th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Get rid of the nonessential workforce-all 204b employees. Many carriers have fought in wars,put themselves through college and raised kids. Carriers don’t need 204b’s that walk around the plant floor like prison guards at supermax prison.
Carriers don’t need to be micromanaged by antagonists who can’t carry the mail but they act self-righteous. Get rid of the actors-Hollywood needs these good actors.
November 12th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
I’m a TE finishing up my first year with a wife and two young kids that gave up two jobs to work for USPS. This job was supposed to be “The One.” Now my heart is in my throat wondering where this will all end up. I’ve already been a dislocated worker from a factory job and that time in my life was pure hell. The ones able to leave should consider their options. At least you will have a choice. Make room for the ones trying to have a future and a life like you’ve had.
November 13th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Most of the post office management should not be allowed to run a mcdonalds. Every decision they make costs them more money, this place is run like a joke . It is sad because there are a lot of hard working employees.
November 15th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
Our local Union Pres. said that before they lay anyone off they have to offer severance pay to anyone who will voluntarily retire or resign. Seven years ago they abolished the Special Delivery job I had for 22 years and I’ve had about 5 clerk positions since then. I would gladly retire if they paid severance pay. If my house was paid off I would’ve retired by now but I know it won’t be easy getting about half the pay when I do.
November 19th, 2008 at 12:06 am
People give what you can’t control to someone who can. Don’t worry be happy. Life goes on with you and without you. Do what is right and ignore those that don’t. Things will get worse before they get better, but you can.t change what will be.
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