USPS, NALC Reach Tentative 5-Year Contract Agreement
Tentative Agreement Reached On City Letter Carriers Contract
NALC Press Release - The National Association of Letter Carriers reached tentative agreement today with the U.S. Postal Service on a new five-year National Agreement for all 222,000 city delivery letter carriers throughout the nation. The pact, which includes new limits on contracting out of city letter carrier work along with provisions covering wages, benefits, and working conditions, will be submitted to the NALC membership for rank-and-file ratification.
The agreement, retroactive to November 21, 2006, provides general wage increases of 8.85 percent over five years along with regular cost-of-living adjustments (COLAs) and a single lump-sum COLA payment of $686 for the period between July 2006 and May 2007.
The proposed contract includes new limits on contracting out of city letter carrier work in more than 3,000 city delivery installations and establishes a six-month moratorium on contracting out city carrier delivery services elsewhere across the country. During the moratorium, a union-management task force will seek to develop an “evolutionary approach to the issue of subcontracting, taking into account the legitimate interests of the parties and relevant public policy considerations.”
The tentative 2006-2011 National Agreement also abolishes the use of low-wage temporary employees known as “casuals” and replaces them with bargaining unit “transitional employees” under terms and conditions established by the contract. It also includes negotiated resolutions to several long-standing issues involving automated sorting of large flat mail, adjustment of carrier routes and other operational matters.
Consistent with trends in the private sector, the proposed accord also provides the Postal Service relief on health care costs by increasing the share of health care premiums paid by city letter carriers by five percentage points over the five-year duration of the contract.
NALC President William H. Young said the tentative agreement is a ‘win-win’ contract for both unionized letter carriers and the Postal Service, and especially the American public that still relies on universal mail delivery for much of its critical personal and business communication.
“This agreement is fair to hard-working letter carriers by taking necessary steps toward protecting their jobs now and well into the future, along with financial compensation that takes into account increases in the cost of living and the difficult task carriers often face in delivering mail to our nation’s growing population,” Young said. “At the same time, it helps the U.S. Postal Service to build on its record as the most efficient and affordable postal service in the world.”
The agreement provides a 1.4 percent wage increase retroactive to November 25, 2006; and wage increases of 1.8 percent on November 24, 2007; 1.9 percent on November 22, 2008; 1.9 percent on November 21, 2009; and 1.85 percent on November 20, 2010.
The proposed agreement, which would expire on November 20, 2011, was approved unanimously today by the NALC Executive Council following negotiations over the past several days by bargaining teams led by Young and Postmaster General John E. Potter.
The NALC represents all city delivery letter carriers employed by the U.S. Postal Service in the 50 states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands and Guam.
Tentative Agreement Highlights



July 12th, 2007 at 3:09 pm
Amazing how , First , They (Postal) attempt to Destroy Union each Contract Year , then by chance LOSE and have to EAT GOAT and honor an agreement. This has been a particularly EVIL year for Postal Tricks, they threw every IDIOT agency at CARRIERS to no RESOLVE. Do They Read at all, history of Unions, shows many companies , who fought union formation , LOCK OUTS, Scab replacements, LOWERED the BAR of successful production again and again without FIRST defining new STANDARDS and Retraining to IMPROVE a smaller employee base. Their FIRST losing cost cut ideas ALWAYS start with ‘ GET RID OF CARRIERS ‘, yet the public interface is and always be THE MONEY WINNER. People use and react to what they learn to TRUST , a Smiling Letter Carrier, unstressed that he may be pushed into a VAN for interrogation by the O.I.G. Silly , no thoughts have EVER been forth coming to make a Sharper Letter Carrier , one that can show a person on the street, instant ways to quickly mail anything, WE ALREADY DO ! New silly programs to ask extra of such employees is always CLOUDED by the LAST attempt by Postal to Kill Union, what a happy work place. WILL USPS Ever Learn !
July 12th, 2007 at 3:46 pm
8.8% increase…minue 5% cost of health insurance, (1% more each year over 5 years) equals a 3.8% increase, less than 1% increase over 5 years. Am I missing something? I am voting NO.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:58 pm
Well this must be a NEW RECORD for ARBITRATION SETTLEMENT? and the funny thing is…You dont see any of those MGMT Types leaving any comments…Maybe it’s cause they are busy rubbing that BIG “L” off their forehead right now. LOL
July 12th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
1 % each year over a 5 year PERIOD of whatever AMOUNT you presently pay now. Instead of them picking up 75% of the cost…it will be reduced
1% each year 74 this year…..73 next year….72
next year….and your cost will rise like 3-4 dollars per pay period or 8 bucks a month! USPS will still pick up the LARGER SHARER of the Insurance.
July 12th, 2007 at 4:04 pm
Bad math skills there “Union Carrier”. 8.8% is multipled times you base salary (about 50,000) and the 5% is multiplied times your health plan cost. Your share plus USPS’s share. Not a net 3.8%.
July 12th, 2007 at 6:32 pm
At the end of the contract your health cost will only be about $20 more. No big deal!!! Im more concerned about the contracting out part and the flat or 3rd bundle part….waiting to see…
July 12th, 2007 at 6:58 pm
8 hours pay for 5 hours work, 8 carriers at Burger King, Postal Management inept, WHo cares anymore!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 7:24 pm
Total lump of around $1174.00 berfore taxes? Bring me an early retirement.Watch all the others jealousy now!!!
July 12th, 2007 at 7:46 pm
with your wife.
July 12th, 2007 at 7:54 pm
Who cares if there are 8 carriers at Burger King? Other business employees eat together. Why should we be treated differently? And there are only so many cheap, fast places to eat.
July 12th, 2007 at 8:30 pm
Were the carriers at BK for 1/2 hour? If so, aren’t they intitled to a lunch break? I’m sure that comment came from a manager driving by BK after having his 2+ hour lunch, paid for by the service..martinis included.
July 12th, 2007 at 8:49 pm
Way to go Young, it looks like you might have done good on this coming contract. I will have to take a close look at it but it looks good so far, but why five years?
July 12th, 2007 at 10:14 pm
what does the big APWU boss BURRASS have to say now. He really sold out the clerks
July 13th, 2007 at 1:45 am
Want to see what a real union can do? Look at the new contract GE workers just go. 1.? what a disgrace. Time for form 1188.
July 13th, 2007 at 7:36 am
the clerks did great when you compare both
contracts. APWU got upgrades equal to 2.2
percent increase along with two other small
increases plus APWU members Health Insurance
is going down while NALC is going up. APWU
will also be adding into their base pay a COLA
that is projected to be $800.00 dollars or equal
to a 1.7 percent increase while the carriers
lost this completely . Base pay for does not increase while APWU does. Facts , Facts.
July 13th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
Look people, you don’t work for GE. You work for thePO. That is your choice! I suppose you don’t like making 50 g’s a year not counting OT.A 5 year work guarantee is golden. Could you make any plans during that time to go work for GE? Raise your hands morons!
July 13th, 2007 at 5:05 pm
The powers that be at the PO were scared to death of arbitration. They knew that all their lies would be brought out into the open. I’m sorry that it didn’t go that way, I just wanted to see them sweat.
No early out?
July 13th, 2007 at 5:33 pm
Like I always said, nickels and dimes to keep the carriers quiet, while the REAL issues go unadressed. I don’t see anything about saturdays off, or converting the PTFs to regular, like it was proposed and “tentatively” agreed to with the PO. If Young even bothers to read these postings, here’s a little message, “brother” Bill- WEEKENDS OFF, PTFS CONVERTED, NO FRIGGIN’ ABUSE FROM MANAGEMENT and THEN I vote to ratify. Otherwise, NO DEAL! Nickels and dimes, nickels and dimes….
July 13th, 2007 at 6:03 pm
Vote this contract down. Why?
1) It paves the way to establish more outsourcing through a joint labor-management committee. This follows on the heels of the “brilliant” (and now defucnt) scheme of sellout NALC prez Young to establish a special Saturday workforce of retirees, etc. that would have eliminated thousands of career employee jobs. Why not a permanent moratorium on outsourcing? What else is there to “negotiate”!
2) Creating (or reviving) the TE category to replace casuals. These employees will also replace career employees. Essentially they are casuals who can work year round, albeit. Our national unioin leadership agreed to not only have these long-term casuals replace the present short-term casuals, but has agreed to an additional 8,000 TEs over and above the present contractual limits for casuals. Again, good-bye to career jobs, hello to the part-time post office.
3) The heath insurance premium increase is outrageous. It “only” 5%. But that 5% must be multiplied by the yearly increase in premium costs, which could be 10-20%. In the end, this will mean hundreds or thousands of dollars a year more out of letter carriers pay.
4) Nothing to stop the brutal productivity drive through longer routes. Nothing to stop longer routes once automated flat-sorting comes on line. Instead the union leadership is helping management accomplish this by agreeing to employ thousands of TEs for the explicit purpose of making sure this system of less office and extra field time goes ahead. Count on more management harassment and more repetitive stress and other injuries for us “pack mules.”
5) A few nickles and dimes to attempt to smooth over things. Given the increase in health benefits, increases in the general cost of living (gas prices!!), and the fact that our COLA doesn’t really cover all cost-of-living rises (never has), our whopping annual increases of under 2% will be whittled away quickly.
VOTE NO!
July 13th, 2007 at 7:32 pm
hay Union Carrier
you are missing something it is 8.8% on 40,000 dollars and 5% on the 2,000 i pay for insurance the rais is 270.oo per pay perion and only will cost 26.oo more in ins for my family this is a great deal you should vote yes goto the nalc web site and read it for your self
July 13th, 2007 at 10:26 pm
Mgmt began discussing excessing plans nationwide to force the union off the arbitration road.
The path to freedom is paved with documented service failures by contracted delivery employees and runs thru your local senator and congresspersons door.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:25 pm
CONTRACT IS OK….WE GOT SCREWD ON THE COST OF LIVING, BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE JOBS….
July 14th, 2007 at 11:50 pm
the contract was lousy the last time, so you will have to say ” what else is new” ???
July 15th, 2007 at 3:15 am
I agree with many of the posts here…
we all knew that the Post Office wasn’t some Top 100 company when we signed on and I am sure we mostly did it for the job security.
OUr contract already had an article in it about outsourcing…32…
it has been allowed but now management will be held to what article 32 says and because of this contract they absolutely will not be able to contract out in offices that do not have rural carriers located in them.
I am pretty sure I am voting yes unless something horrible is unearthed like the Post Office was lying about earnings or something…
I see that having more deliveries every year and the rising cost of gas do have an impact on our service….
but…I want these jobs to be available to other folks coming in in the future and I still want us to be known as the best mail company in the world
:-)
July 15th, 2007 at 4:18 pm
Dear proud letter carrier:
If the present contract has such iron-clad guarantees against outsourcing, then what is the purpose of the new contract’s provision to set up a joint labor-management committee to find an “evolutionary” approach to outsourcing? And if management violated the previous guarantee against outsourcing, why does a new (alleged) pledge to not outsource make you so happy? Oh,gee, management would never lie twice?!
I’m proud of the hard work that my fellow letter carriers do. But the pride I feel to my coworkers means keeping one’s eyes open to every trick managment uses to screw letter carriers. You want to have good postal jobs in the future? Well, do you think expanded uss of non-career employees is creating such jobs? That’s what our new contract calls for.
VOTE NO!
July 15th, 2007 at 7:05 pm
Listen up, these are postal jobs, not high tech. with a president big on privatization, postal governers also, you should grab this contract like a life preserver!! Over $50,000 a year most people would kill for these jobs. you people don’t know how good you have it.
July 16th, 2007 at 5:43 am
BOTTOM LINE : 8.85 PERCENT MINUS 2 PERCENT THEY
LOST ON THE UPCOMING COLA EQUALS 6.85 PERCENT.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS SMOKE AND MIRRORS AND YOUNG
KNOWS IT. HE LSOT 2 PERCENT AND DIDN’T GO TO
ARBITRATION AFTER ALL. hE WOULD HAVE SAVED THE
TWO PERCENT HAD HE THE ABILITY TO NEGOTAITE.
HE IS AN ASSHOLE WITH TWO HOLES.
July 17th, 2007 at 4:51 pm
dear wendy,only the first cola for the carriers is a cash payment the rest get added to the base salary so we get screwed again.if you are a union member get out of the APWU or at least vote to get burras out,all he is,is a post office muppet!
no longer a member of the apwu.well done carriers
July 19th, 2007 at 3:15 am
There is no mention of a layoff clause. So you can take the money now but you may not have a job to collect a check later.
July 19th, 2007 at 5:19 pm
Way to go, Mel! You said it!
I mean, Brother Young, if you were going to roll over, you should have done it 4 months ago and saved us the suspense.
1. What about the “substantial” increase in pay, Brother Young? Was that only if we had to go to arbitration, Mr. “Militant” tough guy? From this “agreement” it seems like you’re not exactly Che…
2. Why hold off on a legislative ban on contracting out? If it’s the main thrust of the NALC’s position, looking after its carriers and all, wouldn’t they want a legislative ban instead of some handshake agreement with management? That was the main reason for taking Sat workforce (among other things) off the table and going to arbitration, right? Because management wouldn’t agree to stop contracting out? Now we’ll just take Potter’s word that he’ll try very, very hard to engage in dialogue on contracting out (but no promises, mind you, because, well, the USPS is still going to contract out).
3. Casuals, TE’s, way to go NALC! Let’s not try to get more career employees. Our office won a grievance with the dispute resolution team stopping casuals from doing city craft work, hoping we could hire a PTF. No problem, just change the casuals to TE’s and we’re back to square one. Instead of retiring in 30 from the USPS, hopefully in 30 the mill put that prospective PTF on the day shift.
4. “study and develop a new process for route evaluations.” Ok, here’s how it goes:
Potter: “well, we looked at it, like we agreed and our route evaluation scheme-er, I mean-process seems to put these lazy carriers’ routes at the times they should be.”
Young: “Duh, okay. See you in five years.”
5. Uniform allowance: 2.5% increase in allowance=3.0% increase in shirtjac prices
6. COLA. 2.2% annually + 1.8% wage increase versus 18% Shell card interest on $2.90/gallon. Maybe I can drive with the a/c off.
Wave a couple of bucks some carriers noses and they’ll dance to any tune management plays. I’d give any or all of these “agreements” to have Sat. off to spend with my family like normal people-and all of the carriers in my office agree. Face it, if the union could get dues from a casual all of us “career” employees would be facing Burger King-and not for a lunch break.
So vote YES, enjoy your CASH, and keep your mouth SHUT when you’re working through lunch on SATURDAY pivoting for 2 hrs on an Aux route because DOIS said you were an HOUR UNDER and your PM said you HAD to BE BACK IN 8 (and he’s not paying unauthorized OT).
July 19th, 2007 at 8:08 pm
I wish they would contract out then maybe we would not have to be on the street till 7pm when the sun goes down at 430pm. Its just going to more bend over and take up the bung.
July 21st, 2007 at 9:05 pm
nobody mentioned the level increase for clerks….isn’t this gonna allow clerks to carry over their seniority into the carrier craft? wasn’t there an arbritrators ruling that stated a carriers job was much more tougher than a clerks job? I say VOTE NO and see what the arb’s ruling is since mgmt. was trying to cut all of our benefits in their proposal and then gave it all to the clerk craft. This tells me that they plan to reduce the clerk craft and give our carrier jobs to those whose jobs are eliminated. One other note, I got “downtime” 3 days in a row, 1hr each day, but the funny thing is I only have 45 minutes of office time and 20 min. of that is authorize to p/u my truck,load my equipment and drive to my station, so how did mangement come up with those numbers? Getting to the point of downtime I questioned 1 of the higher rank assholes on how the carriers can have downtime and the mailhandlers are working 12 hr shifts 7 days a week and the clerks can’t get us the mail any earlier and his response was “I’m really not sure.”
July 22nd, 2007 at 2:54 pm
To those of you who have advocated voting “NO” on this contract, I couldn’t agree more ! What a joke your union has played on you. I say “your” union because I live in a “right-to-work” state and I resigned from the union several years ago. Go ahead and call me all the names you want, but contracts like this remove any hint of guilt I may have been feeling.
I don’t know anything about the GE worker’s contract, but I do know a little about the UPS contract, and shouldn’t we be comparing ourselves to UPS drivers, at least for negotiating purposes ? We’re not even close to them in wages or benefits like health insurance and vacation time. I’m not saying we should get exactly what they get, but we just keep falling further and further behind them.
Do any of you have any problems with DOIS ? Didn’t Bill Young in the Postal Record come right out and say that DOIS was intentionally created to short-change carriers on their office time ? What was he able to negotiate into the contract to protect us from this fraud ? Zilch.
Are you guys and gals out there “banking” your sick leave like the USPS keeps encouraging you to do ? Well, if you will eventually be retiring under FERS, not the old Civil Service system, guess what your reward will be for all that accumulated sick leave when your retirement date arrives. Once again, zilch. That’s right, you just hand it back to our benevolent employer who gives you absolutely nothing in return for it. Once again, thanks for your incredible negotiating skills, Mr. Young.
I could go on and on, but that is enough ranting for now.
July 25th, 2007 at 8:02 am
Dear Union Carrier,
Your math is WAY off. Do you believe that 1% of 40,000 = 1% of 10,000?
In 2009 the carrier salary will be $3,500+ more a year, and your health plan will cost $200 a year more.
Vote any way you want, but buy a calculator with your raise.
Clyde, you’re no better. I’m glad you don’t work the window.
Big Unit - you sure know how to cry!! You applied for a job that requires work Saturday, now you moan because you want Saturday off. You’re the type that will always be unhappy.
OldGoat= OldScumbag
You seem to be very opinionated, however as a scab your opinion carrys NO weight. Too bad, perhaps as a member you could have made a difference - instead you’re really a non-entity when it comes to decisions concerning your wages, hours and working conditions.
July 25th, 2007 at 6:04 pm
Hey, Workerant! Thanks for not disappointing me.
Calling someone a disparaging name instead of addressing their arguments, now that takes a great intellect. However, the contract still sucks. I was a member of the NALC for the first seven of my 23 years as a carrier, and I would gladly rejoin if they would only show me something besides weakness and failure. I was a member of the Teamsters working on a beer truck before I became a carrier, so I am definitely not anti-union, but the Teamsters get results and NALC doesn’t. As an example, the Teamsters just negotiated a contract for the guys that work on the garbage trucks in my city. That contract is also for the next five years and they will be getting a 37% increase in wages and benefits over that time taking them from about $24/hr. to about $33/hr. and 100% of their health insurance is paid by the company.
Hey, Workerant, did I mention that the contract Bill Young negotiated for us really sucks ? Vote “NO” for me, will ya ?
July 26th, 2007 at 1:26 pm
I love being a city carrier, and I don’t care if I don’t get a raise. Don’t take any benefits away, and I will be happy enough. I started out at $9.64 an hour 21 years ago. My wages have more than doubled. My husband has been a policeman for the same amount of time and he doesn’t make as much money as I do. Life is not about fairness. I’m just grateful to have a decent job that enables me to help provide for my family.
July 26th, 2007 at 3:47 pm
the contract will be ratified,because of the south.they typically vote 90% for every contract.if you morons out there want to know the truth,even if the po offered nothing,these cretins would vote yes.
these rats killed the area wage increase about 10 yrs. ago.that’s why young and sombrotto before him didn’t give a spit.
let the south fend for themselves,i’m tired of subsidizing them.
July 27th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
Young you sell-out we need a new union for the carriers, on that cares about its members Go Teamsters..
July 28th, 2007 at 2:28 am
Wow. great contract…lol…now instead of having casuals you get TEs(glorified casuals)and to boot you’re gonna get 8,000 MORE. With this contract the amount of non career employees has probably doubled! And where’s the “no lay off” clause? Young is no better than Burrus (they both should be ashamed!).
July 28th, 2007 at 6:35 pm
this contract sucks vote noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!! ,
i remember young back in april telling us brother and sister letter carriers that we are going to arbitration and we are done negotiating with the po. so young what happened since april that us brother and sister letter carriers weren’t informed about to these secret behind close door negotiation that took place to give us wonderful bullshit snowjob contract sounds like our national is throwing us under the bus . bring back vince sombrotto and we got this wonderful contract
July 28th, 2007 at 6:41 pm
sorry i ment to say so this how we got this terrific contract, sounds like our national was scared to go to arbitration. way to go young vote no !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 30th, 2007 at 5:32 am
30 yrs at 55 yrs old for postal retirement under CRS
are we the only federal agency getting screwed, I’ll be in a damn wheel chair before I hit 55, what happened to early outs SLICK WILLIE…
August 2nd, 2007 at 2:12 am
If you like to carry third bundles, vote yes
August 3rd, 2007 at 7:36 pm
Here’s hoping that they offer an early out
after the contract is ratified. Been a carrier
for 25v years. I remember when we would get a
count for ads. How many of you case your ads???
According to the flow chart, the only flats
you can not case are ones with no address. But since they put address on the ads it means you
can case them. The Union here in LA out out such
a memo but now has backpedaled on it. The Union
sold you out when they agreed to scan points.
Meanwhile they add on to the routes, while your
union is going to Hawai/LasVegas on your dues.
Goodluck to the people thinking the PO will
even be around in another 10/15 years.
August 5th, 2007 at 1:44 pm
calling all letter carriers go on the postmaster section of this site and look at the postmaster making a ball out of sticky stuff ,district and national is so concerned about letter carriers making projected office times and the carriers are always stealing from the post office , if anyone stealing office hours it clowns like this one doing stuff like this on postal time and using postal equipment way to go po maybe big brother needs to watch managers all the way up to the top of the food chain maybe we could save money
here buy cutting out the fat give the money where it is deserving to all the hard working letter carriers and give us our well deserved raises wtf people vote no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
August 10th, 2007 at 6:06 pm
This contract sucks..
Vote no people, I am amazed this idiot (Young) is our representation and voice.
Come on October so I can get my scab on!!!
August 15th, 2007 at 5:35 pm
I’m a little late in writting, but vote no this conctract suck’s… I was at meetings with Brother Young and he was dead set against giving anything back on health care. I brothers and sister’s of the 70’s fought hard for this benny’s and I will not give them back. yada yada yada. The man just stands on his soap box and sell’s his medicine and it all sucks, I don’t know about you but I can’t make heads or tails out of the MOU’s it seems to me that third bunbles are here to stay. route inspection the same. it just more bullshit. Vote No
August 19th, 2007 at 3:50 am
I’ve been working @ the Post Office for 9.5 years. Someone made a comment about “5 hours work for 8 hours pay”. My body feels 20 years older for 9 years work. Only a city letter carrier will understand this fact. Walk a mile in another mans shoes, (in the heat, wind, rain, ice, and snow), before judging. Oh ya, VOTE NO!
August 20th, 2007 at 8:09 am
I am going to have to vote NO. There are a # of reasons. A long contract bit us in the ass last time with the sub-contracting issue. Is anyone asking why the Postal Service did a 180 and all of a sudden went back to the table? Why didn’t our National officers let the membership know they were negotiating again? Although my regional representative says that the step increase the clerks got only put some of them up to the Carrier 1 level, why didn’t we get another step increase? Our National Spent millions of membership dollars fighting the step increase 2 contracts ago, and won in Arbitration. I hope our members do not lose sight that our medical seems to always increase every year anyway, and now with our pecentage going up, it will increase that much more. As a Steward we push hard to the non-members on how hard our union has fought for us, the medcal is one of the big pushes to show how our union has negotiated harder for us than other unions, and the federal employees. Again we seem to be giving up something that we negotiated with membership dollars years ago, and now we are letting it go away. I live in WA, and these raises will not even come close to covering the raise in gas prices and the raises in property taxes. I am barely getting by now with working overtime, vs. 2 years ago I was doing OK with only 40 hours a week. Our gas prices in WA are higher than in HI where they get T-COLA. I guess what really bothers me is I am getting the feeling that our National Officers have lost track of what it really costs letter carriers who live in states where the cost of living is much higher than the national average. I attempted to address these concerns to the Contract Administration Unit, but they wouldn’t even take the time to write me back. As a Steward, I always remind people in my branch that we work for the membership, not the other way around. The question these days is: Is the NALC at the National Level really working for you?
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:55 pm
Major loss for letter carriers.
Even the propaganda rag, Postal Record stated that carriers with family coverage should expect to see an increase of about $27.50 per pay period by the fifth year of the proposed contract. That is about $650 for that year alone.
Using NALC figures, the health care giveback portion of this proposed agreement is about $1500.
Now, as for transitional employees vs casuals. Give me casuals. They work for less and do less and stay for a shorter period of time. Transitionals tour is for just under a year giving them sufficient time to learn assignments and utlitmatley take much more money out of our pockets.
Also, why did Bull Young give management an additional 8,000 TEs? Why do we need more non-career employees if the flat sorting machines are going to drastically reduce our office time.
Think brothers and sisters, our National is BS’n us on everything.
The first memo on page 114 of proposed contract informs us that we no longer have a no layoff clause. That’s nice, why didn’t Bull YOung brag about that?
The memo on third bundles is a royal screw job for park and loop carriers who will now be forced to carry as a third bundle a coverage that is only 75% of the route.
By the way park and loopers, how does 7 hours in the field sound? Oh, for your 12 hour odl carriers in solely park and loop offices, good luck. This contract should have provided you with some additional vitamins, you’ll need them.
AS for the claim by Bull Young the we the carriers and Congress forced management back to the bargaining table because of the no contracting out legislation, what a big pail of crap.
The bills in the house and the senate didn’t even have enough sponsers to bring the legislation up for a vote. Even if the bills passed and an agreed upon bill between the house and senate passed, do you really think W would sign it? of course not. He and his puppetmasters believe in contracting out everything from Walter Reid hospital service for our wounded Iraq “war” veterans to contracting our mercenieries to fight that “war”.
It was all a bunch of eyewash. Bull went crawling to management with the offer of 8,000 additional suplemental workers. He knew he had no way to stop contracting out. Just hopes to delay it until he retires.
Read the fine print. contracting out is here to stay. The NALC should have negotiated limits or percentages on contracting out many contracts ago. Too late now.
As for the additional impact of flat sorting machines TEs? Ask your business agents about what is going on in certain regions in California right now.
Management is withholding the posting of vacant assignments becasue of the implementation of the flat sorting machines…in 2009! Yes, two years away and routes that become vacant are not being posted for bid. Who does that affect? Everyone but especially PTFs. that means no promotion to regular carrier status in offices that are not 200workyears.
Again, I say read the fine print.
TEs will reduce overtime hours for sure. That is the reason Bull Young offered to create a Saturday only workforce initially. The PO should have jumped on that one. What a goofy proposal. A contracted out/one day a week worker. With no stewards working on Saturdays to police the contract. What a total joke. I dont remember the members authorizing our national “leader” to bargain for that either.
Just think, no saturdays. How would that affect T-6s and PTFs? Tremendously and adversley for sure, not to mention the overtime desired list carriers.
So, my brothers and sisters, go ahead and fool yourselves into believing this is a good contract.
I think you know how I will vote;………… NOOOO !!!!!!!!
August 25th, 2007 at 4:31 pm
I sure am glad to see their are only 50 comments, not all that are negative. I believe this contract will be ratified. I voted for it and I’m not from the south. I have been a Union Activist and served as Steward or Branch Officer all but a couple of the 22 years I have been a letter carrier. My daughter just made regular after being a PTF for almost two years, but has her entire career ahead of her. I’m hoping the Post Office is still around then. I believe this is one of the best contracts we have ever been offered, whether through ratification or arbitration. There are a lot of changes in our wokrplace that I don’t like, but to meet the challenges of the rest of the world, comes change. Technology is here to stay and we better have a plan for it. I believe our national officers have our best interests at heart. I am extremely concerned about contracting out and our branch did picket when this first occured in one of our offices. Our national officers know we have the support of our congress to push forward a bill on contracting out if negotiations fail. With the 6 month moretorium going into next year, maybe by the time it gets to them we will have a US President that would sign the bill.
The wage increases are significant and no I don’t like paying more for health insurance, but we still pay under what other federal agencies pay and significant less than the private sector.
We also do have health care when many do not.
I think because our Union has fought long and hard and has always gotten us great contracts in the past, that people are greedy and continue to want more and more.
I come from a family of Union workers and we have gotten far better contracts than my other family members in AFSME, SEIU and Teamsters. So I say don’t be fools, Vote to Ratify!!
August 26th, 2007 at 5:14 am
true blue open your eyes our union just rolled over for its members, national just got done telling us in april the post office refused to negoiate a contract with the nalc and by some miracle we have this great contract in which you and some others think is great . why hadn’t the national update members that they were still talking with the post office instead of leaving us in the dark during what i consider secret talks being the only info i was ever given was we are going to arbitration, so why for the life of did national leave us in the dark ??????????? and for your family members that are in the other unions that got worst contracts than we got none of them don’t work for ups where there drivers earn $70,000.00 a year after 30 months verse the post office earning $50000 after 14 or so years . and for health care there are place in private sector that better health benefits than us and pay around the same . so stop spouting your union bullshit to me and others and grow some balls and stand up for yourself instead of being a robot for national and vote no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2007 at 4:30 pm
True Blue,
It’s pointless to argue union committment. I was a steward for 23 years, Branch secretary for 5 and Branch President for 6 years. Have delt with Bull Young and found him to be full of hot air.
This contract is a loser. We lost no layoff clause. Why no mention in Postal record or Postal bulletin? We gave back on health care.We lost on third bundle, DOIS and we withdrew our grievance on flat sorting machines and will allow USPS to eliminate routes any way they choose.
I suggest you stop voting because you listen and read national’s propaganda and take a half an hour to read the memorandums in back of proposed contract that was mailed to you. Start on page 114.
If you still like what we gave away, have at it. But our elected “leaders” need to know we are watching them and that we don’t like being yanked around.
As for congrees and highway contract routes. It ain’t gonna happen brother. How can they intervene in our contractual negotiations. the USPS has always had the right to contract out and just because they waited until this year to utilize that right,shows our leaders were outbargained.
If I sound bitter it is because I am. I don’t like being misled and fed a bunch of crap by a person that hasn’t carried mail in over 30 years who seems to think he knows what is best for me.
so have at it and vote yes, but mark my words, this contract is but the start of the rapid spiral downward for letter carriers.
September 2nd, 2007 at 7:08 am
I am so thankful that I don’t have to much longer to go and have to put up with this union and postal BS
I’m glad that I did not change to FERS in 1984 I don’t think I could do that many more years in Hell
what has happened to the NALC I guess thats why I havent been a member for the last 4 years, I think this union has ran its course, Its time to start a new union with a back bone.
September 11th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
thanks NALC members for voting yes on A CRAP!!! deal
glad I only have A few years left ha ha …
November 11th, 2007 at 3:40 pm
Nalc is horrible, leadership should be ashamed and feel full with failure. No representation is better then the Nalc. The Nalc is a timid weak organization that should be ended. It is time for a real union!
November 11th, 2007 at 3:46 pm
NALC
Never
Allow
Leadership to be
Competent
November 11th, 2007 at 3:49 pm
Dictionary:
NALC noun referring to the Postal Services’ Bitch.
November 11th, 2007 at 3:50 pm
NALC
Never
A
Lucrative
Contract
November 11th, 2007 at 3:52 pm
Nalc + Member = an abused spouse