Letter - Postal Workers Injured on Duty Should Know Their Rights
Vocational Rehabilitation (VR) my view
by Dean Albrecht
Currently and more so in the future many on the job injured employees (IOD) will be thrust into the OWCP VR program. In order for this process to even be considered the employing Agency must notify OWCP that they are unable to accommodate the IOD within their restrictions. The VR program is being pushed to the forefront as a means to save Federal Agencies millions of dollars in compensation payments. If used properly and the “procedures” are followed the VR program is an excellent opportunity for IOD employees to become productive. The VR program is more effective if after being “Culled” from employment with the USPS the IOD employee files for Disability Retirement. By doing this the IOD employee will maintain their health and life insurance benefits.
There seems to be a pattern that surrounds any government program that is thrust into use, and that is abuse. Quotas need to be made and the money spent into the planning and development of such a program needs to be recovered and a profit must be shown. Those who are appointed to run these programs are under a tremendous amount of pressure to produce numbers that show the program is working. This is where the “abuse” is factored in, and proper procedures do not get followed. When that happens (and it is happening) the individuals who are harmed the most are the IOD employees, through loss of income. In basic terms and in a nut shell this is how the program works:
An IOD employee is either sent to a second opinion physician because they are already on total disability or their modified/rehab position has been eliminated and a update on the limitations is requested (there obviously is more procedures in between but I am trying to be brief), after the report is sent to OWCP, the IOD employee is contacted by OWCP through a Notice stating that they qualify for VR and a VR officer will be contacting them in the near future. The notice also goes on to state the normal language of the penalties for not cooperating.
The next Notice comes from a VR officer who wants to set up a meeting to discuss the advantages of the VR program and to do some testing to see what areas of employment would best suit the IOD employee.
At the meeting and subsequent testing the VR officer has some great news for the IOD employee; they qualify for the VR program. The VR officer will then make arrangements for the IOD employee to attend classes to learn a new skill. “Accounting” appears to be the VR officer’s favorite choice. This statement is based on four IOD employees (three from USPS one from BOP) who I came into contact with who were being thrust into this program. All four of these individuals suggested other options of training instead of Accounting; all suggestions were ignored or brushed off by the VR officer. It should be noted that the four individuals are from different parts of the country and none are in the same State. Though this is a very small number compared to the number of employees who are in or being thrust into the VR program, a pattern is developing with regards to rehabilitating the IOD employees into the Accounting field.
For the sake of simplicity this is how it works from here. The IOD employee is then set up to attend Accounting class with the approval of OWCP. OWCP then will send another Notice to the IOD employee explaining that they will pay for the tuition, and expenses related to the Accounting class, as well as pay compensation payments throughout this time period and even a few months after graduation. However the starting salary of a graduate from Accounting class is twenty thousand dollars, we are paying you 75% of forty thousand (which was the income while employed at USPS). Your payment will be reduced to 75% of twenty thousand whether you find employment or not. Within months the IOD employee’s income is cut in half, however they will have a diploma to hang on the wall. Assuming employment is found the IOD employee was a success story for the program. If employment is not found the IOD employee begins to suffer financially. Either way the USPS has just saved thousands and thousands of dollars in compensation payments to the IOD employee. It is a win win situation for the USPS. The USPS has a lot at stake here and the savings can be in the millions which would keep them afloat a few more years. When the statement is made “a lot at stake” it is because the USPS has a long history of going to the extreme at returning IOD employees back to employment using modified/rehab positions. A 180 degree deviation has occurred on this policy, now in order for the IOD employee to be qualified for the VR program the USPS must now state they no longer can accommodate the IOD employee. This is a large gamble on their part, because if the IOD employee is not a candidate for the VR program, the IOD employee will remain on the roles of compensation for a long long time, at the USPS expense.
It is extremely important that any IOD employee currently in the VR program or is going to be thrust in to it know their rights. Do not be intimidated by the Claims Examiner nor the State contracted VR officer. The lack of information being explained to the IOD employee about the VR process by the Claims Examiner and the VR officer is disturbing. For example: prior to being a qualified candidate for the VR program “all of the IOD employee’s physical and emotional conditions must be taken into consideration” whether work related or not. From the four who I have been in contact with this is not being done and the Claims Examiners as well as the VR officer are only using limitations imposed solely on the accepted conditions of the IOD injury to “qualify” these individuals as candidates for the VR program. When challenged on this, the IOD employee is then placed in a suspended (medical hold) status by the Claims Examiner. Thereby costing the employing agency to provide compensation payments to the IOD employee, because they have already stated they can no longer accommodate within the limitations.
The Notices I have seen are intimidating and leads one to believe that as an IOD employee there is no choice but to be lead through the program. In most situations the physician who is treating the IOD employee for the accepted condition is not the same physician who is treating the IOD employee for non work related impairments. OWCP is not aware of those other physicians or the non work related conditions and as such were not taken into consideration when qualifying the IOD employee for VR. Though I feel the Claims Examiner has the responsibility to inquire about other physical or emotion conditions prior to qualifying an IOD employee for VR, this is not being done and it is up to the IOD employee to bring this to the attention of their Claims Examiner.
The USPS and OWCP need to take a slower approach and follow the proper procedures in place when qualifying an IOD employee as a candidate for the VR program. The VR program will be work for some, but for OWCP and the USPS to assume that most IOD employees are qualified candidates without following proper procedure will end up in the long run an expensive assumption.
As stated above this is the short version, there is a lot more to inform the affected “Culled” employee. I have spent years in researching this program in anticipation of it being instituted as outlined in the Reorganization Act in which I obtained a copy of in 2003, during one of the many visit to L’Efant Plaza for the Glover settlement.
Dean Albrecht



July 24th, 2006 at 10:05 am
“The USPS has a lot at stake here and the savings can be in the millions which would keep them afloat a few more years.” Correct, and to keep the iods on board, according to this statement, we would not stay afloat…hence, this program is necessary for the vitality and survival of our business! I hope it works, and we get rid of the fre-loaders who are hell bent on bringing us down. I guarantee you, 99 percent of them are not hurt that bad, certainly not bad enough to sit around whining for years! If I were in charge of this business, I would have done it a long time ago! There will be no “work” for anyone who cannot do their assigned bid duty…nowhere in the contract does it state, “we have to invent jobs for iods to do”…If this were the case, and they do create jobs, modified jobs for iods, I will file a grievance so the job will have to be put up for bid for the entire work force, and the iod will be out in the cold again! I suggest we all write letters to the P.G. and tell him to push this program through, expeditiously, as we all know many iods who sit around at work and do nothing, and then go out dancing, playing ball, exercising, etc…We have to get them off our backs, or we all will sink!
July 24th, 2006 at 10:15 am
Also, I read where you first hurt your back “carrying bags”….Now, why did you “carry” the bags, and not drag them???? Nowhere did it say you had to carry them!! And did you ask for help when doing this? Case closed….
July 24th, 2006 at 12:01 pm
All rehabs should watch out! I agree with Soriano. There is no such thing as an injured on duty employee. All Rehabs are guilty of fraud and should be in jail. Soon you will all be broke and living under a bridge because you are all useless. The USPS is the best employer in the world and you should be glad that you had the opportunity to work here.
July 24th, 2006 at 12:29 pm
I am in the VR program. I was sent for 2 weeks of training. I got a paper that said I completed training. I can’t find a job. My union said I have no more rigts because I no longer work for the post office. OWCP stopped paying me so I called. The said I can work so I can’t get comp. I am mentally ill and completely disabled. Why cant I become a supervisor?
July 24th, 2006 at 12:52 pm
I now have a certificate that say I completed the accounting’s assistant program. I went for the required 3 days training. They gave me a calculater and showed me how to count with it. I tried to find a job on wall St. but people laufghed at my certificate. I got some OWCP payments after 6 months of trying. I, was arrested by by the postal inspectars because they video taped me selling lemonade with my 6 year old in front of our homeless shelter. Now I am in jail but can’t make bail.
July 24th, 2006 at 1:50 pm
Thanks for the great lettr Dean. I am an injured postal carrier living in Montana. My injury however was not faked like so many others. I was attcked by a pack of wild wolves while delivering my route. Unfortuanatly I had both arms amputated. My supervisor visited me in the hospial and gave me a 7 day suspension for acting in an unsafe manner. When I returned to work I tried to case with my feet but I was written up for being on the work room floor without shoes. (safety hazard) I am interested in this great new program. How do I sign up?
July 24th, 2006 at 3:00 pm
Just read the responses from the iod’s Now you all have proof. If you don’t stop playing games and get back to work the Postal Service will be bankrupt in 5 years. I work in headquarters so I know what’s going on. Pesident Bush has warned us that if we don’t cut cost all upper managers will be fired. Frank, how can you sign up without any hands? Stop whining and find a job.
July 24th, 2006 at 8:54 pm
hey sore anal, king george is going to ruin the ps no matter what happens. he’s ruined the whole economy already. I think Frank was wrong. he wasn’t attacked by a pack of wolves, or “wolfs” to you, he was attacked by a pack of nimrods like you and 1 buck. upper managers fired? oh my! we only have about 80,000. what would we do if we lost some of them. we could acomplish 2 things at one time. fire the upper managers and that in turn would cut cost. see the solution is simple. much like 1 buck and yourself.
July 24th, 2006 at 11:02 pm
Sorry-A&&hole, ooops meant soriano, regarding your first post
“nowhere in the contract does it state, “we have to invent jobs for iods to do”…If this were the case, and they do create jobs, modified jobs for iods, I will file a grievance so the job will have to be put up for bid for the entire work force, and the iod will be out in the cold again!”
As I stated before you have no f’n clue. Nowhere in the CBA huh? How about Article 13??????? If you can read AND ARE ABLE TO COMPREHEND please read it. Such a pitiful little worm you are, I already know that I am to look foreward to a barage of bashing by you, but I can smile knowing that you really “DON’T KNOW”. I’ll be waiting for your unfounded, hilarious comeback. Have a NICE DAY!!!!!
July 24th, 2006 at 11:06 pm
Sorry-ano just incase you get confused by numbers the title of Article 13 is “ASSIGNMENT OF ILL OR INJURED REGULAR WORKFORCE EMPLOYEES”!!!! With your vast wisdom and knowledge I am shocked you missed this WHOLE Article…. I guess I could understand a sentance, maybe even a paragraph but you are clueless about a WHOLE Article. Ohhh please great sorry-ano enlighten the employees some more, as I posted in other stories with your negativity YOU MUST BE MANAGEMENT, cause as all employees know they are the only ones STUPID enough to miss an ENTIRE Article!!!!!
July 25th, 2006 at 2:23 am
Do you really know….. Dude, get a life! Or, better yet, a wife…it will take some of the edge off of your aggression..You have too much of it built up, and, I bet you have a hairy back too…ewwwwwwwww!!!!
July 25th, 2006 at 2:27 am
in defense of soriano, yes it says we must find work for them, but it does’nt specify it has to be “postal work”….i think you are the one who is stupid, and obviously, a worried iod, you seem to know some of the rules that apply, but, you are ignorant to this program, which exploits the language of the contract itself!!! don’t expect to get out of this one! Get a life, a wife, and take a chill pill….your post makes you look like a 14 karat f#$# up!!!!
July 25th, 2006 at 2:34 am
“do you really know” You seem to be really torqued up on this issue. My guess is, you are injured yourself, and trying to convince yourself that it will not happen to you! I read your post, and like alot of folks here, it is idiotic, pointless, and the product of mindless gobbledegook, which you seem to spew out quite often! The previous poster was right, get a life, or, you can keep posting, and keep looking stupid. I bet you are a gross looking person in real life, probably a religious fanatic, and a republican too…but first and foremost, you are, an idiot…and you excel at it, so keep up the bad work, and give us reason to laugh at you again soon!
July 25th, 2006 at 2:41 am
Countdown, bugger off as the english might say. Sorry-ano has in past been overly aggressive towards people who post differing views than his/HERS. If You Really Knew you might have a clue.. Also I am a steward not an IOD number one, number two why should I get my own wife when yours is readily availible to share!!!! By your post it may seem as though a sorry-ano in disguise? And my post which let’s a mooron know that there is language in contract that he/SHE/or your alias (whatever) was stated by their post as non-existent actually exists makes me look like a 14k whatever??? Hmmm how many of you in management does it take to try and come up with this stuff, I don’t get offended (kinda hard to take offense to those who are truelly mentally handicapped) by posts like yours, I find them humorous. Good try though, please keep the banter going, it is very entertaining! LMAO… But please educate yourself and your counter ego a little first.. Oh yeah, dont worry wifey will be home when ou get done work I promise I won’t keep her.
July 25th, 2006 at 2:42 am
I totally agree..”do you really know” should look in the mirror and ask himself that same question! This is my first post, but I do read the articles. I think Soriano is one of the most interesting posters, along with several others. As for “do you really know” I see your name, and then skip over the post, I don’t even bother reading it..I know it is going to be a crock anyway. Leave Soriano alone, you should instead try to learn from the content of her posts, and if it applies to you, well, if the shoe fits, wear it (in your mouth)….
July 25th, 2006 at 2:51 am
Looks like Do you really know is under seige! Let me join in..anyone with name “latina time”, well, you got my attention..LoL! You’re totally right about Do You Really Know (dyrk), which means, dork.LoL!~!! I think everyone here is tired of his bull, now he says he is a steward? My god, now he is hallucinating! He is slug for sure, in more ways than one. Soriano is cold at times, but I have to admit, she is straight on target on this issue. Hey Latina time, email me!
July 25th, 2006 at 3:01 am
Countdown, P.S. hmmmm it doesn’t say postal work in article 13, really???? Using your logic when they discuss “Duty Assignments” but don’t mention “Postal Work” they are not talking directly about mail work? Wow, thanks for that tid-bit of info.
Montser Mush, Sory-ano, (can’t) countdown, and 1buc - I again thank you all it shows the Service is in compliance with the A.D.A. in their non-discrimination of hiring those with mental challenges. We can do this whole name calling thing, but what woul really impress me is if any of you could come up with actually legit (by this it means something that can be proven through documentation of some sort, be it verbal or written) to go along with your opinions cause as the old saying goes OPINIONS ARE LIKE ??????????? WELL you know the next word being as it describes you all so well.
July 25th, 2006 at 3:07 am
I can handle being under seige all day, when there are mindless folks on here just bashing others due to themselves having miserable lives.
July 25th, 2006 at 3:15 am
Hey “do you really know you” you should change your name to “Do you really know is an idiot” Now, that shoe, as latina said, should fit just fine! I usually don’t make a habbit of arguing with mentally bankrupt people like you, but, in light of the fact that you foolishly came back to challenge me, I will make an acception. I don’t care what you are, or who you are, it does’nt matter, a loser is a loser! I can tell by the posts here, you are losing, and the time has come for you to get lost! Maybe there will be a subject matter that you can handle, in the near future, like, maybe,”POSTAL SERVICE TO OUTSOURCE ALL IDIOTS” (this would apply to you)…Please get lost, there are enough idiots around, and without you, there will be one less!
July 25th, 2006 at 3:55 am
As I thought, I put a challenge up and 28 days later proved me correct. He/She is a …… Guess you couldn’t come up with anything intelligent after all. Hmmm I am losing, maybe by popular vote, but that couls be because the popular vote as of now is comprised of uninformed loud-mouths (loud typers actually, LOL) who’s sole mission in life is to put down others in an attempt to compensate for their own shortcomings. Again if all of you put your brains (assuming you have ‘em) together can you not come up with wittier responses?
July 25th, 2006 at 3:58 am
Latina Time - Mira en el espejo? Tan largo como yo no le ve allí, mi día estará bien! Anuncie primero? Creo que no. Usted es alguien disfrazado
July 25th, 2006 at 10:02 am
Well, anyway, to all the intelligent posters here, I say, give this program all the support you can, it is a must for our survival as a business. While I think there are people who are legitimately injured, still, at some point in time, you will have to get well, and get back to work like the rest of us! I have been excessed, and have transferred too, and have been injured several times, and ever missed a day, I am 5 ft 2, and only 113 lbs, so, I don’t understand how all you big strong men out there, can get hurt lifting a bag or pushing equipment. I did those same things, and I am still working. “28 days later”, did you get my email? There are certain people here I am ignoring, so, if you have something to say, please email it, and keep our info out of sight of certain posters here, who make my stomach turn! (See previous post)…..As always, I ignored it, and will continue to do so.
July 25th, 2006 at 12:43 pm
As I thought, latina time u cannot even understand what was typed previously… Hmmm why ? could it be that you, Sorryano, and others are really one in the same? Creative name though…………
July 25th, 2006 at 12:52 pm
This is all USPS BS! Get a life all of you!
July 25th, 2006 at 10:06 pm
Rehabbed, we do have lives, and jobs, which is more than you will be able to say for yourself in the near future! This is not “usps bs” as you stated…a friend of mine got a letter from the union last week, stating that this fall, she will receive a letter from management, and the letter will have a job offer in it, and she has to accept it! Now, we don’t know what the job offer will be, but, she will have to accept it, period! How is that for “usps bs” as you stated? All I can say is I am sorry for my friend, as she is truly injured and has worked for over 15 years, but this program will take no prisoners. I am just glad I am not one of the injured….((((((((((((IT’S LATINA TIME)))))))))))))))
July 26th, 2006 at 1:16 am
You go girl!!! Chicks rule!
July 26th, 2006 at 10:43 am
This program rocks! There are far too many people getting hurt. Ok, so, stop smoking, drinking, getting fat, being lazy, and, start working out, eating right and taking better care of yourselves, and maybe all these pathetic injuries would not have happened! P.S. Latina time, are you single?
July 26th, 2006 at 8:28 pm
This program is 5 decades too late. S is wrong. 99% of IODs are not fakers. 98.9% yes, 99% is just too high. Too bad the fakers are fu_king the 1.1% that the program was designed for.
July 26th, 2006 at 10:06 pm
No, the program was designed for the 99 percent fakers, however, the 1 percent will get shafted….
July 26th, 2006 at 11:02 pm
I hear it’s coming soon, to a theater near you! All injured will be given 2 choices..get back to work, or, be in the hands of owcp. Given the choice, I would get back to work, but as always, alot of these people will try to fight it, good luck! I asked a lawyer what he thought of this program, and if he would choose to take on the post office…he replied “This program is a no brainer for any corporation, and, would I try to help someone fight it?…. Not just no, but HELL NO!”……. a point to ponder……
July 27th, 2006 at 12:56 pm
Your all stupid
July 27th, 2006 at 6:19 pm
1buc, ALOT of people? I only see a few narrow minded lifeless losers who agree with you. Ten to one half of the names are an alias for one real loser….. You are truely a JOKE!!! I have not seen one factual statement behind your accusations. There in fact are only 5 things real 1) The program is real 2) There are legit people that will be affected by it 3) The post office has hardly ever done something the correct way 4) If and WHEN the USPS gets called out on this “program” by a legit IOD who was performing core functions it will cost outrageous amounts of money to the service and last but not least 5) You are a very sad sorry pathetic wannabe internet bully who probably got beat up all throughout your school years and more and attacking injured (weakened) people makes you feel like a man……
July 28th, 2006 at 12:18 am
I heard that 1buc! I agree with you on this issue. I have been reading the posts, and it appears that the only no-life, ignorant person is “do you really know”…He seems to really be caught up in this thing, and he is paranoid, thinking that the same person is using different names! Well, the same can be said for you “do you really know”….No one seems to take you, or your info, seriously, and for good reason. You are full of it. I know several upper level managers, and they said this program will go through, and it has been approved on all levels. I guess that “do you really know” is an iod him/her/it self, and is trying to convince us that iods will win some huge law suit…Now that is a laugher! Dream on bubba, you can always claim insanity, and judging from your posts, it just may fly!. Oh and 1buc, let me in on the pizza party, sounds like fun!
July 28th, 2006 at 9:28 am
Hey 1buc, keep on truckin’! This program is rollin’ on , and will continue to roll!Any news from your neck of the woods? We keep hearing that letters are going out this fall, and they want the program to be fully implemented by jan 7th or so. Anyone who decides to get on iod now, is putting themself at risk for being outsourced (like we care), and the ones who are still sitting around not getting well, have no clue whatsoever,of what is about to happen. Just sit back and watch them roll on out the door, and out into the real world, where no one will be waiting to change their diapers or wipe their noses..We have babied them long enough!
July 28th, 2006 at 9:47 am
I went thru the VR program. Advatages..1)You can work for a friend’s or family business. 2)You can keep your health & life insurance 3)The lower the wage you receive the higher your LWEC will be. If you don’t like the job, quit find another low paying job. 4)Education or skills over 5 years old are considered obsolete. 5)Investment income is not counted as part of your LWEC (Real estate rentals, stocks, funds, etc)
If you have no management experience you do not have to seek management trainee jobs. 9) You are not at the Post Office.
7)Since salary is not a consideration you can seek a job you would really enjoy, (the golf course, firing range, etc)
Disadvantages..You will lose your retirement benefits. On balance it is a fair trade off.
July 28th, 2006 at 11:04 am
ahhahah!! this cat on the previous post, has lost all sense of reality! he is obviously one of our mental casualties!….get your cameras out and lets get some pics of these frauders and collect the big 10 grand! ((((((((((((((IT’S LATINA TIME))))))))))))) p.s. chicks rule!
July 29th, 2006 at 12:04 am
This all sounds like there are a lot of mothers who were unsuccessful at teaching their children some very important lessons like: judge not lest you be judged, the pot calling the kettle black, walk a mile in anothers shoes, the list can go on and on. This program will affect a lot of families, not just your egos. Try to remember why the post office is so different in its IOD policies than the private sector. These policies were developed because we are a place for our disabled vets. With the war going on how many more disabled persons do you think might need a place to find work where they can support their families? Don’t you think the country has an obligation to take care of the people and families who are disabled because of service to the country, including civil service. There are many jobs within the postal service which will accomondate our injured employees, the problem is finding someone willing to work with the employees and placing them in the right job. Its not right to hang this threat over employees heads. Its not right to intimidate employees so they do not want to report injuries they receive. Harrassment because of disabliity is also wrong. Does putting all families of injured workers in financial harm really make you feel good. Lets just pray it never happens to you.
July 29th, 2006 at 1:08 am
hey , el stupido, you should’nt talk about your momma like that, and further more, there is no “right job” to place injured people in…we all have bid assignments (except for ptfs) , and if you cannot work your assigned bid, you are of no use to us, period, end of story! we are not in this business to work with, around, or for, injured slugs who sit around doing jack crap, while the rest of us pull our weight! professional athletes get cut from their teams when they are no longer be productive..multi million dollar athletes!! so, lets say, if a running back is hurt and can no longer play,why don’t they keep him on as a coach, or make him a kicker? well, he is a running back, and can no longer run well, so he is gone… so, what is so wrong with the post office doing the same to our sick, lame and lazy workers, 90 percent of whom are not that bad!!! get well and get back to work and produce, or get out….bottom line, got a problem with that? go belly ache to someone who cares, because we sure as hell don’t! ((((((((((IT’S LATINA TIME)))))))))))
July 29th, 2006 at 1:16 am
90 percent of whom are not hurt that bad!!!
July 29th, 2006 at 7:31 pm
At out station we have many fakers who just won’t come back to work after being on light duty for almost a year or more. They can drive around in their air conditioned cars and do whatever but they can’t sit on their fat ass and deliver a mounted route because they say their back hurts. All these Losers should be fired and then they will see how good they had it. Be glad when they get rid of these scammers in the Houston area.
July 29th, 2006 at 11:42 pm
the subject reads ” postal workers injured on duty should know their rights”.. it should read, ” postal workers injured on duty should know their rights from their lefts..(most of them don’t know, so, the issue is moot)….in fact, iods will soon be moot when they get the boot!!!
August 1st, 2006 at 7:15 am
DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT GETTING RID OF REHABS IS GOING TO FIX THE POSTAL SERVICE??? THEY CAN GET RID OF ALL THE REHABS THAT ARE WORKING MODIFIED DUTY AND IT STILL WONT MAKE UP FOR THE LACK OF INTELLIGENCE THAT THEY ARE HIRING & CALLING CARRIERS!! WAKE UP YOU GUYS. YOU ARE THE BLIND SHEEP THEY THINK YOU ARE. KEEP BELIEVING THE GARBAGE THEY FEED YOU. WHEN IT HAPPENS TO YOU, I WISH YOU ALL LUCK!
August 2nd, 2006 at 2:20 am
say dude, we don’t care if it fixes the post office or not, it will be worth it just to see these lazy whiners sent packing! your post, like you, lacks substance….
August 2nd, 2006 at 6:15 am
Those who whine the loudest must be a rehab themselves or on the road to be.
August 15th, 2006 at 10:30 pm
WOW! I can’t believe I am reading all of these post that do nothing but talk about other people like a bunch of 1st graders. I was hit by a semi while driving my LLV. I have had surgery and will never be the same. I know alot of you will say that my case is different, and yes that may be true, but I still get treated as if I am faking my injury. I loved being a carrier, it really is hard to swallow the fact that I will have to change my life around since I will no longer be able carry mail. I don’t really believe a person should judge someone because of what they might think the truth is. If you work for the postal service obviously you are not doctors. I don’t believe any doctor would put thier license on the line just to help someone fake an injury. I went 7 months without pay after the accident because a supervisor did not do her part in my claim. Obviously she was the incompetent one. The diffrence between someone who delivers mail and a supervisor or someone who has a desk job is, if that employee becomes injured she will be able to stay in her position because she already has a sedetary job. As a carrier I may be out of luck. How sad that you would act so superior to someone else. How sad that you would just assume all injured employees are faking it.
As a carrier our duties are very strenuous and yes, more injuries will occur over time.
Just cause someone might feel well enough for one day they felt like going out dancing doesn’t mean they are not injured. I try my best to do as much as possible to enjoy my life, doesn’t mean the constant pain is gone, just means I am trying my best to deal with it.
August 16th, 2006 at 7:02 pm
So who decides which ones are faking it? Would it be the supervisor? Or is it the doctor? And, yes you do have to be a doctor to determine if someone does actually have a medical condition. Of course there will always be the few people who might fake an injury, I understand that, however to say that most of them are faking it is only an opinion of yours. I have learned that a lot of medical evidence is required for an injury to be accepted. How would you react if you or a family member of yours was injured, and was being harrased by a supervisor? Do you believe it could never happen to you?
By the way I didn’t use any cuss words in my blog so why do you feel you must call me a “dumbass”? I happen to have a Bachelors degree and was working on my Masters before the accident. So I really don’t consider myself a “dumbass”
August 17th, 2006 at 6:17 pm
Do you mean that Dept Of Labor has Claims Examiners that are not doing their job? After all no employee is placed on workers comp just because they say they are hurt. Claims Examiners must make sure all guidelines are followed and medical evidence must prove beyond a doubt the employee is injured. If there is a doubt the Claims Examiner will then refer for a second opinion doctor to examine the employee. Are you accusing the doctors of faking paperwork to satisfy the employee? As for back probems, back problems can last a lifetime. This isn’t an argument, this is just what I have learned from having to go thru the process. Having a claim accepted is not an easy process. If you are sure someone is faking it, you should call the postal inspectors. Don’t just gripe about it, take action.
Of course I know there is workers comp fraud within the post office, it is worldwide. I just can’t believe that all injured employees are put into the same category. I was hit by a semi-truck while doing my job. I don’t believe I should be treated badly just because I can no longer carry mail. I have rods and a metal plate in my neck that will be there for the rest of my life. Without you knowing my injury or my surgeries, how could you call me names because I am now an injured employee on permanent restrictions?
August 21st, 2006 at 6:45 pm
1buc, horrible, you are just plain horrible, terrible also, i can’t believe the load of crap coming out of your writing, if you don’t care about others, then you don’t care about yourself, injury to one is an injury to all, remember that, dumbass
August 22nd, 2006 at 8:42 am
Yes, I believe their are some IOD’s that are faking it and are abusing the system. I am a Supervisor and I have seen some workers use OWCP in their favor just to sit home and get paid for doing nothing. These employees put more work on their co-workers,and think nothing of it.When questioned about their status,you get alot of double talk,personally these people think we are stupid,but we can spot a milker a mile away and unfortunately there is sometimes we can do nothing about,some of these IOD’s can even fool their Drs.
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:48 pm
1puke(buc), if you didn’t have your head stuck up your @ss, maybe you’d see straight, you are the scammer, you are milking the system, taking advantage of the system by being a lazyass, pointing fingers at others, when all along your to blame, shame on you, your the shiester, scammer, and worthless piece of crap
August 23rd, 2006 at 5:09 pm
Ladies and Gentlemen, this just in, from the forum sign up: I have just recruited another gutless, nerdy little moron faker! Welcome to the site, 1puke(buc). You are now the front leader, for the prestigious award of GUTLESS SCUMBAG OF THE YEAR! Congratulations, you faking candyazz!
August 24th, 2006 at 6:07 pm
It’s about time the USPS cracks down on these losers. Where I am at there have been people on light duty for 10 years. To put it bluntly, they are lazy and do nothing but cause problems and walk around. They must go before they pull the Postal Srvice under.I vote for outsourcing ASAP.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:09 am
http://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/ar03/03arnsrt.pdf
August 27th, 2006 at 3:08 pm
To those who are against this process, in defense or injured workers, real or not, the crux is, that we have too many of them, period! It makes good business sense to do this program (N.R.P.), and if I were in charge, I would have done it long ago. It is funny, how, years ago, people worked hard, on railroads, in coal mines, in fields and on the roads, and somehow, managed to make it through without light duty, or limited duty, so most of you sissy’s would not make it one minute on the outside world, so how is it, that now, thousands of you work for a few years, in air conditioned buildings, sitting on your cans, and then you get hurt and never recover? Why is that? Tell me! N.F.L players get crushed, tear ligaments, knees, shoulders, and somehow , get well and get back to work, and when they can’t, they are released from the team…So, all of you injured cry babies, real or not, this is what will happen to you, like it, or not. You cannot perform your assigned duties, so you are of no use to us…That’s all folks…..
August 28th, 2006 at 2:59 pm
I HAVE BEEN IN THE EMPLOY OF THE USPS FOR OVER 18 YEARS. I REALLY BELIEVED THAT WORKING FOR THEM MEANT WORKING FOR PEOPLE WHO TREATED YOU DECENTLY AND DID NOT JUDGE.
HOWEVER, TO MY DISMAY, I AM WRONG. I HAVE KNOWN PEOPLE ON LIGHT/REHAB DUTY…ETC.
IF THEY ARE “FAKING” IT, THEY WILL BE FOUND OUT. IT IS NOT TO ME TO JUDGE. I COME TO WORK AND DO MY JOB.
IF I AM “ASKED” TO WORK MY DAY OFF, MAYBE I WILL, MAYBE I WON’T. I WILL DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENSES WHEN THEY ARISE. NOT ANYONE ELSE. I AM NOT ON THE OTDL.
I DO NOT CARE WHAT PEOPLE SAY ABOUT ME, AS I DO MY JOB WHEN I AM THERE.
HOW CAN PEOPLE JUDGE OTHERS? HOW CAN THEY “ASSUME” THE WORSE ABOUT SOMEONE?
AND WITH ALL THESE POSTS BEING RUDE, MY QUESTION IS:
“WHERE ARE THE “GROWNUPS” MONITORING(?) THIS BOARD FROM THE MINDLESS, OVERMEDICATED NEANDERTHALS WHO CAN NOT “POST” IN A CIVILIZED,THOUGHTFUL, MANNER?”
August 28th, 2006 at 10:11 pm
Ren (and stempy), You ask…..How can people judge? It’s easy, when armed with the truth! Those of us with intelligent minds have powers of deliberation, the ability to arbitrate, argue, judge, imply, insist, assume, suggest, demand, inquire, accuse, ridicule, mock, mimmick, etc..Nowhere does it say, if you work for the post office, you will not judge others!! It is obvious to me, by your idiotic post, that you just landed on this planet, or at least this country, where we have freedom of speech…If someone seeks to limit that freedom, we will not vote for them , buy their products, watch their show, post on their websites, etc….You need to take a course on common sense, and social awareness, government, and political science….but, alas, that would require intellect, forethought, insight, determination, intuition, and above all, some gray matter between your ears……there is something between yours, and we all know what it is,and, based upon your post,I judge you to be a stupid idiot!! How do you like them apples, mr. potato head?